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I choose to boycott Valentine's Day this year, fic-wise, because last year, Valentine's Day caused a rift in the space-time continuum.  I didn't write one into Haven at first, but then someone's sad face made me go back and add a Valentine's Day back in.  I wrote up the fic, chose a likely place to insert it into Haven, and thus it was done.  And then recently I noticed, when reading back over that stretch of fic, that I managed to insert it before a chapter that stated that it was, in fact, late January.  I am not going to bother changing it now, but firstly, let the record reflect that I am aware of it, and secondly, Valentine's Day can apparently be quite the space/time-bending thing.

Therefore, I shall wield my wiles on the other event of the day this year, Lunar New Year.  I did a little digging, found some interesting things, but found nothing quite interesting enough to spark a meaningful fic, so today, you get mere meta-fic, an explanation of what I found that I would have put into a fic, had I written one.  Certainly, if anyone else out there would like to make use of this information, they are more than welcome to.

So I got to thinking, what year of the Chinese zodiac were the boys born in?  Let me be clear here that this is not an exercise of me reading through all the horoscopes and deciding which I believe is the most appropriate for them.  This is me actually doing math.

I'm going to assume they were all born in AC180, more or less.  Trowa is sometimes said to be one year older than the others.  I'm not sure if that's just a fanon myth or if that's officially documented in any way, but let us for the moment speak of AC180.  Let us further believe that none of them was born in January, because that would unfortunately put them in the prior lunar year.  Chances are approximately 11/12 that they were not born before the new year, so I feel this is not an unreasonable assumption.  (and i haven't a bloody clue how to figure out exactly what date the lunar year starts.)

So there are, as I see it, two ways we can go about trying to figure out what year AC180 equates to in Anno Domini, and from there, we can determine what lunar year it would be.  The first way is to understand how many of the years were chosen in the Gundam universe.  Mobile Suit Gundam 0083 was released in 1983.  0079 was released in 1979.  Gundam Wing, taking place in AC195, was released in 1995.  Therefore, one can consider AC195 to be implicitly 'equivalent' to 1995.  I'm not too keen on this notion, though, because it's a little self-referential.  I would prefer my extrapolations to be based on points that can be found within the Gundam universe itself, without referencing the Creator that created it.

So the other proposition I have heard is that we take After Colony Zero to be the year 2000.  Technically, the After Colony calendar begins with the year development of the space colonies began.  That obviously hasn't happened in our universe, but I'm comfortable with pretending that AC 0 == AD 2000.

This means that AC180 == AD 2180.  And AD 2180 will be the year of the dragon.

According to chinesezodiac.com:
The Dragon is the mightiest of the signs.  Dragons symbolize such character traits as dominance and ambition.  Dragons prefer to live by their own rules and if left on their own, are usually successful.  They’re driven, unafraid of challenges, and willing to take risks.  They’re passionate in all they do and they do things in grand fashion.  Unfortunately, this passion and enthusiasm can leave Dragons feeling exhausted and interestingly, unfulfilled.

While Dragons frequently help others, rarely will they ask for help.  Others are attracted to Dragons, especially their colorful personalities, but deep down, Dragons prefer to be alone.  Perhaps that is because they’re most successful when working alone.  Their preference to be alone can come across as arrogance or conceitedness, but these qualities aren’t applicable. Dragons have tempers that can flare fast!

And since we're all unhealthily obsessed with the romances among five particular dragons, here is what they say about their relationships:
Dragons will give into love, but won’t give up their independence.  Because they have quick, sometimes vengeful tempers, their partners need to be tough-skinned.  Dragons enjoy others who are intriguing, and when they find the right partners, they’ll usually commit to that person for life.

Let us further observe that zodiac years also move on a 60 year cycle.  That is, each time a sign comes up, it cycles through the five elements.  Being born in AD 2180 would make all of them Metal Dragons.
Metal strengthens this already strong sign.  Metal Dragons are more determined and they’ll fight for what they believe in.  They enjoy the company of those who feel mighty enough to challenge their beliefs.  They’re true leaders and usually find plenty of others willing to follow.

For those of you who have an interest in Trowa, you may believe, at your convenience, that he was born in the prior year, AD 2179.  This would make him an Earth Rabbit.  To paraphrase, Rabbits are creative, passionate, sensitive, and enjoy the company of others.  They prefer to avoid confrontation, and when they cannot, they approach it calmly.  They believe strongly in friends and family, and when they lack these, they can have emotional issues.  Rabbits need to build more self-confidence so they can feel safer and more secure.  Relationship-wise, Rabbits are very sexual, but tend to give more of themselves than they should.  This can lead to unrealistic expectations and unhealthy situations.  Rabbits need partners who won’t take advantage of their giving nature.  Such pairings will be strong.  Earth Rabbits in particular are grounded in reality.  Their advice can be harsh, but honest.

You may now all compose your own fics in your heads with this information and save me the trouble of doing it for you. ^_^

Happy (Lunar) New Year!

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yira_heerai From: yira_heerai Date: February 14th, 2010 08:41 am (UTC) (Link)
This comment was destroyed by an explosion of fangirling due to two of her favorite series unknowingly being brought together.

The smattering of debris that could be collected contained words like "Fruits Basket," "Trowa as Momiji," broken links, and what can only be keyboard mashing.

Trust that this explosion was a good thing.
turnippatch From: turnippatch Date: February 14th, 2010 09:29 pm (UTC) (Link)
Ah, that sounds like an excellent fic-thing you just wrote in your head.  Mission accomplished. ^_^v
_x_rae_x_ From: _x_rae_x_ Date: February 15th, 2010 06:02 am (UTC) (Link)
I never really thought about their zodiacs before. Very interesting. Thanks for sharing your thoughts on the matter!
turnippatch From: turnippatch Date: February 15th, 2010 09:08 am (UTC) (Link)
What's kind of no fun is that they're all born in the same year, which means we don't get to do any fancy analysis of which signs they're most and least compatible with. =)
placidvalentine From: placidvalentine Date: February 15th, 2010 04:22 pm (UTC) (Link)
That's so interesting! I've never really matched characters to Zodiac. It's cool how much it fits them. :3 Thanks for the info! With fic ideas all I got was Wufei secretly stalking everyone to see how much they match up, and take notes. ...Even in personal situations. <<;... Hurhur.
turnippatch From: turnippatch Date: February 16th, 2010 12:31 am (UTC) (Link)
In a way, I think it'd have been a lot more amusing if it turned out they were all monkeys or cows or something.  At least then, I could have written a fic on Wufei telling Duo that and Duo going wtf?
lavendarlizard From: lavendarlizard Date: February 15th, 2010 06:48 pm (UTC) (Link)
*snork!* They do all seem like excellent dragons! Even Trowa. Nothing says he wasn't born at the beginning of 180 and the others at the end. That could be that extra year. ^_____^ I am one of those January dragons. I think we get a little hosed by being so close to the snake. =p Not that there's anything wrong with snakes! O.o

Cool; very cool. ^___^

turnippatch From: turnippatch Date: February 16th, 2010 12:36 am (UTC) (Link)
So you're actually a dragon, eh?  Was that just a happy coincidence for you, or did finding out in some way lead you to your lizardy path?

I'm a sheep.  Baaaaaaa!  I've always had a certain fondness for the fluffballs.
lavendarlizard From: lavendarlizard Date: February 17th, 2010 06:46 pm (UTC) (Link)
It was a source of jaw-dropping surprise. ^___^ I've always been rather lizardy, but didn't know until I was about 17 that I was a dragon. I think I'm more of a stealth dragon.... ^____^

Now, now. Sheep aren't just fluffy; they can be pretty formidable. Especially when your back is turned. ^___^

turnippatch From: turnippatch Date: February 18th, 2010 11:43 pm (UTC) (Link)
Heh, well it's kind of funny because people like dragons all the time, but no one ever thinks, wow I've always been a ratty person so it was really exciting to find I was born in the year of the Rat! ^^'

Yeah, if you don't keep an eye on those sheep, they'll graze your yard down to nothing!

(one day, the sheep will attack and shave all the humans they can get their hands on... >_>)
lavendarlizard From: lavendarlizard Date: February 18th, 2010 11:50 pm (UTC) (Link)
It's like everyone thinks Scorpio is cool, but no one ever brags about being a Pisces. ^___^

...after the sheep finish head-butting everyone first. O_o *ouch!*

Useless bit o' knowledge... On Camp Pendleton, they hire shepherds and their flocks to come in and mow down the grass and weeds in the outer camp areas to mitigate the brushfire danger. ^___^

turnippatch From: turnippatch Date: February 19th, 2010 12:11 am (UTC) (Link)
Yay Scorpio!  *swishes tail proudly*

Sheep are silly creatures!  There once was this sheep-herding type game, named quite appropriately 'Sheep', and it came out of England so it had a British humor to it.  The premise was that sheep were actually aliens that had come here a long time ago and the sheep we have today were a recon party, but they were here for so long that they got dumbed down, but now, their mothership has returned for them so it's your job (you were brainwashed by the alien sheep) to help herd them to the rendezvous point (because the earthbound sheep kind of forgot how to get there). ^^ The developers touted the sheep's 'artificial stupidity' as a game feature.  You had to herd them through obstacle courses, and one breed of sheep was very flocky and timid, and another breed of sheep was fascinated by gadgets (not so good since they tended to wander into twirling blades if you didn't keep an eye on them), and then you had the not-so-flocky, long-haired headbanger hippy sheep. ^o^

See, if we had more sheep, we wouldn't have as many crazy wildfires! *nodnod*
sunhawk16 From: sunhawk16 Date: February 16th, 2010 02:07 am (UTC) (Link)
I'm.... *sigh* the pig. (Boar, damn it! boar! )
So I sort of tend to not pay a whole lot of attention to the Chinese zodiac for obvious and entirely petty reasons.
But I do like your math, it works out quite nicely. ^^;
turnippatch From: turnippatch Date: February 16th, 2010 05:01 am (UTC) (Link)
I get to go baaaaa! and always think of it as year of the sheep, but sometimes it's the ram, and sometimes it's even a freakin' goat.  Ram, fine, but goat?  Come on, that's a whole separate animal!

I tend not to pay attention to the Chinese zodiac because it makes no damn sense.  Every kid born in the same year has the same personality traits?  No one is ever compatible with someone their own age, plus or minus a year or two?  Sounds more like an excuse for the old matchmakers to pair up older men with younger women.
ramenkuri From: ramenkuri Date: February 18th, 2010 05:11 am (UTC) (Link)
nice to hear your thoughts on it!
I'm a dragon too, which I like conceptually, but yes, the whole concept of people in each year having the same personality traits is not really accurate in my observation :)
turnippatch From: turnippatch Date: February 18th, 2010 11:39 pm (UTC) (Link)
It gets odder when you think about all the additional levels of astrology or fortune-telling you've got in the culture, too.  How does one's zodiac traits mesh with, say, one's palm reading?  I think the location of your moles may be relevant, too, along with your time of birth, and I suppose the feng shui of your surroundings, perhaps your diet in regulating the free flow of chi through your body, etc.  Surely something in there must contradict!
hostilecrayon From: hostilecrayon Date: April 17th, 2010 12:55 am (UTC) (Link)


As far as I know, Trowa is in fact one year older than the bunch. I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure the site I'm thinking of had official information. =]
turnippatch From: turnippatch Date: April 17th, 2010 02:27 am (UTC) (Link)

Re: fun-fact!

That makes Trowa pseudo-officially a bunny among dragons, then. ^o^ *pets the fluffy wabbit*
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