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Today's fun-fact in lieu of fic: I've just now realized that, to the best of my recollection, I've always written Haven with Heero calling Relena in the evening to chat... except they live on different continents.  I've always imagined Haven as being in North America, although I suppose it doesn't have to be, and we know Relena is in Europe.  I'm certain there must be at least several hours time zone difference between the two places, if not something like twelve hours.  And yet when Relena picks up the phone, it's always the latter half of the evening as well.

Oh well.  It's certainly not the first time Haven has bent the space-time continuum.  I'm sure it won't be the last. ^^'

Since we're on the topic of terribly random fic things... what is a two-by-four called in a place that uses the metric system? (this is not a riddle.  haven uses the metric system, and one day in their home improvement adventures, they'll probably need to refer to a two-by-four.) Is it still called a two-by-four?  It'd probably make just as much sense as calling it a two-by-four to begin with, given that the dimensions of a two-by-four are actually 1.5" x 3.5".

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From: (Anonymous) Date: June 1st, 2010 05:36 am (UTC) (Link)
in canada we still call them 2 by 4s and if you are not a handy person we usually refer to all long pieces of cut wood as 2 by 4s. Im sure professionals and handy people refer to other sized by other names
From: (Anonymous) Date: June 1st, 2010 05:42 am (UTC) (Link)
also according to wikipedia, lumber is measure before its dries, so a 2 by 4 gets its name from the size it is while still green
turnippatch From: turnippatch Date: June 1st, 2010 05:55 am (UTC) (Link)
Hm, I wonder if Canada is a good example since it's right next to the US, so it may just be a convenience... sort of like how the UK seems to be metric only when it suits them. =p Either way, I guess since the Haven universe is fictional, I can make up whatever I want, so I can make everyone still call them 2x4s if I want to. ^_^ Good to have a reference, though.
r05km From: r05km Date: June 1st, 2010 09:15 am (UTC) (Link)
In the UK, I think we just generally call them all 'planks'. Excepting when we occasionally get a bit screwy and call it a '4x2' or come over all American and call it a '2x4'. (I suppose it all depends on what's on top; the length or the width.)
turnippatch From: turnippatch Date: June 1st, 2010 06:31 pm (UTC) (Link)
Hm, well, as long as there isn't some sort of standard name out there, I guess I'll just call 'em whatever the bloody heck I want. ^_^
r05km From: r05km Date: June 2nd, 2010 01:03 pm (UTC) (Link)
I don't suspect anyone following Haven will mind what you call a 2x4.

Unless you call it 'a dramatic change in the plot'. :P
turnippatch From: turnippatch Date: June 2nd, 2010 05:35 pm (UTC) (Link)
I've usually got enough continuity mistakes as it is, so I like to enforce consistency where I can. ^_^

*ponders ways to make '2x4' a major plot device...*
r05km From: r05km Date: June 2nd, 2010 09:17 pm (UTC) (Link)
*laughs* The time zone thing is pretty great. I think I always just assumed Relena was in the same 'America-ish' country, but maybe way north and the boys were in the far south.

Also, belatedly, hi! I lurk you long time.
turnippatch From: turnippatch Date: June 2nd, 2010 11:25 pm (UTC) (Link)
If I could do it all over again, I'd consider relocating Haven to south/western Europe somewhere.  I'm not as well-versed in the local culture, but I can pretend that by AC19x, world culture has been homogenized somewhat into whatever I find convenient.  Heero liked being an ocean away from the heart of ESUN, but he also likes keeping an eye on things.  It'd also be convenient for social purposes (relena & wufei are both in brussels) but I guess Heero wouldn't exactly take socializing into consideration. ^_^

Ahoy, lurker!  I bid you official welcome!
r05km From: r05km Date: June 3rd, 2010 11:35 am (UTC) (Link)
*laughs* I can totally imagine Duo being right at home in Italy or something. "Did you SEE the size of that pizza? That's standard? Holy cow! Sorry, what? What was that? I can't hear you, everyone's too loud and you're being too quiet, Heero. I said, ITS TOO LOUD~!" Who knows, maybe Heero would find a niche with the old fishermen who like to lurk in the cafes and play chess and tinker about with boat engines in peace.

Anyway, as it stands, it kind of seems to me like wherever Haven really is, it was so decimated before they arrived there that whatever culture or situ was there before has been lost. Maybe the original landowners were wiped out, or chose to move on and now the re-builders are forging a new culture, even in the midst of whatever else is there. I almost prefer it not being too obvious, because they're never terribly specific in the series, and if it's vague then it can be as equally as foreign yet familiar to me as i choose to imagine it as it is for someone following the story from the USA, or Australia or Germany. If you see what I mean.
turnippatch From: turnippatch Date: June 3rd, 2010 09:26 pm (UTC) (Link)
I could totally see Heero out in the country/ocean-side, just chilling and being at peace. <3 Not sure how much of that Duo would let him get away with, though! ^^

I usually try to make Haven as non-specific as possible, exactly so readers can fill in the blanks with their own expectations... but sometimes I don't, or I don't notice I haven't.  I think I've been pretty good about not specifying what currency they use...

My goal for this spring in Haven is to actually write it raining for once!  I don't think I've written rain in for a couple of years.  No wonder the dirt in their backyard is so dry!
bloody_winged From: bloody_winged Date: June 1st, 2010 05:37 am (UTC) (Link)
(I know, it's been a long time since I actually commented >.< sorry ^^;;)
I just thought you might like my input on the time-zones, since I actually have the europe/america thing going on most of the time. With me living in Germany, the time difference between here and east coast is six hours. So if Heero would call Relena in the early evening (around 5 pm) it's still 11pm for her... and we all know that she is working way too hard and he is never happy to reach her in her office. So... technically it's still possible XD
salmastryon From: salmastryon Date: June 1st, 2010 05:46 am (UTC) (Link)
I was going to say the same thing. Europe is only 5-6 hours off from the east coast. The only time it gets tricky is with the whole day light savings time since they don't have that in Europe, but that just changes it by an hour.

But all in all it is similar to doing stuff with someone on the West and East Coast.
turnippatch From: turnippatch Date: June 1st, 2010 06:01 am (UTC) (Link)
Heh, I knew I shouldn't have been lazy!  I totally thought about actually looking up the time zones to see how off things were before posting, but then decided I just couldn't be bothered. ^^' Guess that Atlantic Ocean just ain't as big as I think it is.  Normally when I think of time differences, I'm thinking of Asia.
bloody_winged From: bloody_winged Date: June 1st, 2010 10:22 am (UTC) (Link)
Actually, we do have the day light savings. We usually only have them a few weeks before/after americans have it, so sometimes can become tricky to figure out what time it is XD
turnippatch From: turnippatch Date: June 1st, 2010 05:58 am (UTC) (Link)
It's been a long time, and you comment in just to talk about time zones?! ^o^

Hmm... I think Heero usually calls after dinner... but I think I'm just going to wave my magic wand over this one and be vague.  I'll think I'll start noting that there IS a time difference, but just never quite specify how many hours it is. ^^''
bloody_winged From: bloody_winged Date: June 1st, 2010 10:25 am (UTC) (Link)
I know, I fail ^^;; I haven't had internet for about eight months (september-april) and then the past few weeks were pretty... weird in some aspects^^;; I promise to do better!

I kinda thought so, but as long as you never really gave a time, it's all good XD Also, who says they don't eat dinner at 4 pm? :P I mean, I know some who do... XD
turnippatch From: turnippatch Date: June 1st, 2010 06:40 pm (UTC) (Link)
I'm actually somewhat surprised how many people have popped up to comment on time zones and 2x4s... O_o

Maybe I should just make it a running joke for it to be a different number of hours every time. =p
lavendarlizard From: lavendarlizard Date: June 1st, 2010 10:28 am (UTC) (Link)
And who says Relena doesn't work an "alternate" schedule? ^___^

turnippatch From: turnippatch Date: June 1st, 2010 06:41 pm (UTC) (Link)
Heero does.  If he caught her in the office past 2AM, he'd fly out there and appoint himself the guardian of her schedule. ^_^
lavendarlizard From: lavendarlizard Date: June 1st, 2010 09:10 pm (UTC) (Link)
I dunno... Maybe she gets more done when the squirrelly people aren't there? O_O I know I certainly do... >_>

But yeah... Heero wouldn't like that at all. ^___^

From: (Anonymous) Date: June 6th, 2010 11:50 am (UTC) (Link)
We call them 2x4's here in Aust. I don't think it's going to change. I checked the hardware store and that was what was written (or scrawled, rather) on the racks.

As far as time zones go, I just thought they were somewhere in Europe...
turnippatch From: turnippatch Date: June 7th, 2010 03:45 am (UTC) (Link)
At some point, Duo out and out said that Heero's regular haircutter, whom we have established to be in Brussels, was on a different continent from them.  I suppose I could just wave my turnip wand over it and say that Duo was simply exaggerating... =)

Alrighty, 2x4 it seems to be... although then I'd have to wonder if studs are still 16" apart... Luckily, I'm pretty sure I'd never need to write that into my fic. ^_^
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